Tuesday, 7 July 2009

How to Get a UK Visa for a Foreign Baby, Born in the UK

Did you know that if you and your spouse are foreigners, your baby has no right to live in the UK, even if he/she was born there? That's what we were told by the border patrol agent at the Glasgow Airport after making a weekend trip to Paris when our son was two months old. Oops! We figured that after getting his passport, we were good to go. We were wrong. The border patrol agent VERY kindly let us back into the UK with the stern warning that he had the authority to put our son in detention and have him put on the next plane to the US without us (now, the logistics of doing this with a nursing infant would have been interesting, but nevertheless, he did a good job of scaring us). He stamped our son's passport with a six month tourist visa and told us we needed to apply for a proper dependent visa as soon as possible. Below I'll share with you what we learned about this process. As usual, though I'm writing from an American point of view, this information would likely pertain to other nationalities as well.

First of all, we found the citizen's advice bureaus to be very helpful. "The Citizens Advice service helps people resolve their legal, money and other problems by providing free, independent and confidential advice..." They are non-profit organizations and they are happy to help people like you and me with just these sorts of questions. I highly recommend giving them a call if you need help with anything.

The other folks to contact are the people at your regional Public Enquiry Office. Actually, the phone number on the website can be incredibly difficult to get through on, but it is possible. They are the people with the definitive answers, so it's good to double check any advice you get with them.

Basically, though, the form we were directed to complete to apply for our son's visa from within the UK is called the FLR(O) form (Further Leave to Remain (Other)). Note, this form is only applicable if you are trying to apply while in the UK. While it may not seem like the right form, it is. It's basically a left-overs sort of form for all the people who don't fit into other categories. Also note (this is important), your child will be the main applicant--don't be confused and add yourself as the main applicant and your child as the child of the main applicant. You will have to add a note explaining your particular circumstances, i.e., that the main applicant is a child.

Also, you will see on the application, that it is expensive. The current price is £465 if applying by mail and £665 if applying in person. Yikes! We had to remind ourselves that we didn't have a hospital bill for this kid! One final thing, the wait-time on this application if you mail it in is 4-14 weeks. The more expensive in-person appointments are processed same-day, but you often need to book your appointment a month in advance. You do this by calling the Public Enquiry Office mentioned above.

The other option, of course, would just be to go home to the US (or wherever you have citizenship) to make the application. If you do this, you would need to follow the procedures for applying for a dependent visa from the US per http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/. The difficulty you might run into with this is knowing when to book your return tickets to the UK, since the visa application process can take several weeks and you are not permitted to apply without being on US soil. However, the price for the actual visa is currently around $230. The price difference may almost pay for your plane ticket to go home. Also note, biometric data is NOT currently required for children under the age of five years.

Stumble Upon Toolbar

62 comments:

  1. thanks for this post! exactly what i was looking for. we returned to glasgow from the states and received the same stern warning.

    i feel like we've gone through a lot of the same. my husband and i moved to the uk early 2008 and had a baby.

    i do have a question about the FLR(O). did you have to send in bank statements with your application?

    ReplyDelete
  2. Hi, Cary. Thanks for your input!

    About the FLR(O), yes according to the form, you will need to send in bank statements or some other official paperwork indicating your ability to support your family. The following is from the FLR(O) form: "Evidence of your finances. Bank statements, building society savings book, pay slips or other formal documents as evidence of your ability to maintain and accommodate yourself and any dependants without recourse to public funds. (Note 3: We do not accept internet or cashpoint statements as evidence of finances...)"

    I hope that helps!

    ReplyDelete
  3. Hi,

    I am really glad I stumbled across this on google! We are on student/student dependent visas, but my husband has to travel to Germany for 3 months in the fall (baby is due in June). I am considering going home for 2.5 months to the US to get the visa- but I am worried about if it falls through, will they let us back in (Heathrow). It appears that everyone who has tried this, gets a 'stern' warning from the UK Border Agency. I just don't think it is possible to get a US Passport and UK Visa (in person) by the time our child is 3 months old.

    We have done the visa process twice- once in the UK, and once outside. We know the whole banking system process too- a major pain. My question is- do you have to send the student visa holder (ie my husband) or my passport into the packet or do they only need the baby's? Do you know anyone who has tried to get the visa in the UK after the baby was born?

    Ugh, what a mess! Thanks for your help!

    ReplyDelete
  4. Vanessa,

    Sounds like a bit of a logistical nightmare! Ugh! I think I have good news for you, though. You will not have to send either your husband's or your passport in with the baby's application. The following is from the supporting document checklist for the PBS Dependant Application (http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/vafs/vafsdocschecklist --click on "PBS Dependant (VAF10)-supporting document checklist" at the bottom of the page):

    "A copy of the pages from the main applicant's passport showing their permission to stay, if they are already in the UK."

    So, if your husband is the student, you will need to send in a copy of his visa and maybe his main passport page (NOT his whole passport) along with with the baby's application. You will have to send in the baby's passport of course, but in our experience, getting the passport here from the UK took no more than a week so you should have no trouble getting that before the baby is 3 months old.

    I do know somebody who has gotten the baby's visa while in the UK and it's been fine, though it took quite a while to process. I would think your best bet, since you're thinking of going home anyway, would be to apply for it once you're back in the US. Not only is it WAY cheaper, but I think it's slightly easier. You could even try completing the form while you're here in the UK and then just pop it in the mail with the baby's passport once you get home. There's no reason it should take more than 2.5 months to process! Remember the baby won't need biometric data so you won't have to wait for an appointment.

    I hope I've answered your questions. Please feel free to clarify if I've missed something!

    And, congratulations on the baby!

    Jackie

    ReplyDelete
  5. I'm a foreign national living in UK. My wife is due to give birth when we will be attending a conference in US..To me seems like a good chance to get that previlege to the baby.
    However, how long will it take to get a visa for UK for the baby while we are in US.

    ReplyDelete
  6. Hi Amado

    It looks like the vast majority of visa applications are processed within 2-4 weeks, though you can use the link below to help you get an even more accurate idea: http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/processingtimes. But remember, in order to apply for a visa, you will also need to secure your baby's birth certificate and passport which will likely add an additional 1-2 weeks minimum. Also, two other considerations which I'm sure you've thought of, but I thought I'd mention them just in case:

    1. Most airlines will not allow a pregnant woman to travel internationally within a few weeks of expected delivery. Be sure to check with your airline to determine their policy. It would be really frustrating to be told at the last minute that she is not permitted to board the plane!

    2. You'll want to be sure to have health insurance coverage for your time in the US since they don't currently have a system of nationalized medicine. An uninsured labor, delivery and recovery in a US hospital will typically cost between $8000 and $25000 depending on whether there are complications.

    I hope that helps!

    ReplyDelete
  7. This was very very helpful. Thank you. I am here on a 5 year work VISA and my wife and I had a baby 4 months ago in the UK. We traveled home for Christmas and face immigration upon return. Luckily were granted a 6 month stay for our baby until we could get a VISA for him. I still can't believe how expensive it is!

    ReplyDelete
  8. Hi..... I have a peculiar problem.My daughter was born in UK in 2007 while i was working in UK.But now we have come back to India.Im a single mother as i got separated from my husband.I need advice as im looking for a better education for my child in UK.Wanted to know what possibilities do i have to give her a better education and life in UK.

    ReplyDelete
  9. Visa for UK - Imperial Visas
    Visa For UK - Visa for UK is the most common visa for foreign nationals in order to live and work in the UK. In 2008, all work permit applications were classed under Visa for UK.
    Keywords
    Visa for UK
    Contact Us:-
    Location: 2nd Floor Cygnet House,
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/visa-for-uk.html

    ReplyDelete
  10. Visa For UK - Imperial Visas
    Visa For UK - Visa for UK is the most common visa for foreign nationals in order to live and work in the UK. In 2008, all work permit applications were classed under Visa for UK.

    Keyword-
    Visa for UK
    Contact us-
    2nd Floor Cygnet House
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/visa-for-uk.html

    ReplyDelete
  11. Visa For UK - Imperial Visas
    Visa For UK - Visa for UK is the most common visa for foreign nationals in order to live and work in the UK. In 2008, all work permit applications were classed under Visa for UK.
    Keywords: -
    Visa for UK
    Contact Us:-
    Location: 2nd Floor Cygnet House,
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/visa-for-uk.html

    ReplyDelete
  12. I am really enjoying the theme/design of your website.
    Do you ever run into any internet browser compatibility issues?

    A number of my blog visitors have complained about my blog not working correctly
    in Explorer but looks great in Opera. Do you have any ideas to
    help fix this problem?
    My weblog : web design miami beach

    ReplyDelete
  13. Howdy, i read your blog from time to time and i own a similar one and i was just curious if you get a
    lot of spam comments? If so how do you prevent it, any plugin or anything you
    can advise? I get so much lately it's driving me crazy so any help is very much appreciated.
    Here is my blog post : backup camera

    ReplyDelete
  14. Hi there mates, nice article and fastidious arguments
    commented at this place, I am genuinely enjoying by these.
    Here is my web page : sci-fi book blog

    ReplyDelete
  15. Hi there mates, nice article and fastidious arguments commented at this place, I am genuinely enjoying by these.
    Also see my web site: sci-fi book blog

    ReplyDelete
  16. Hi, i feel that i saw you visited my website so i came to go
    back the prefer?.I am trying to in finding issues to improve my website!
    I guess its good enough to make use of some of your concepts!
    !
    My web page > reborn

    ReplyDelete
  17. UK Immigration - Imperial Visas
    UK Immigration British Citizenship is a Different form of British Nationality that is Defined in the British Nationality act 1981.
    Keywords: -
    UK Immigration
    Contact Us:-
    Location: 2nd Floor Cygnet House,
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/uk-immirgration.html

    ReplyDelete
  18. Visa For UK - Imperial Visas
    Visa For UK - Visa for UK is the most common visa for foreign nationals in order to live and work in the UK. In 2008, all work permit applications were classed under Visa for UK.
    Keywords: -
    Visa for UK
    Contact Us:-
    Location: 2nd Floor Cygnet House,
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/visa-for-uk.html

    ReplyDelete
  19. Hi everyone, it's my first visit at this site, and paragraph is really fruitful designed for me, keep up posting such articles or reviews.
    Check out my web blog ; organic

    ReplyDelete
  20. Visa For UK | Visa For UK Apply Online - Imperial Visas
    Visa For UK - Visa for UK is the most common visa for foreign nationals in order to live and work in the UK. In 2008, all work permit applications were classed under Visa for UK.
    Keywords: -
    Visa for UK
    Contact Us:-
    Location: 2nd Floor Cygnet House,
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/visa-for-uk.html

    ReplyDelete
  21. It's hard to find well-informed people about this subject, but you sound like you know what you're talking
    about! Thanks
    Look into my blog post : click the next page

    ReplyDelete
  22. Visa For UK | Visa For UK Apply Online - Imperial Visas
    Visa For UK - Visa for UK is the most common visa for foreign nationals in order to live and work in the UK. In 2008, all work permit applications were classed under Visa for UK.
    Keywords: -
    Visa for UK, Visa For UK Apply Online
    Contact Us:-
    Location: 2nd Floor Cygnet House,
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/visa-for-uk.html

    ReplyDelete
  23. Fantastic goods from you, man. I've be aware your stuff previous to and you are simply too wonderful. I really like what you have bought here, certainly like what you are saying and the way in which during which you say it. You are making it enjoyable and you continue to take care of to stay it wise. I can not wait to learn far more from you. This is really a great web site.
    Also visit my blog post ; DSL Anbieter

    ReplyDelete
  24. Visa For UK | Visa For UK Apply Online - Imperial Visas
    Visa For UK - Visa for UK is the most common visa for foreign nationals in order to live and work in the UK. In 2008, all work permit applications were classed under Visa for UK.
    Keywords: -
    Visa for UK, Visa For UK Apply Online
    Contact Us:-
    Location: 2nd Floor Cygnet House,
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/visa-for-uk.html

    ReplyDelete
  25. Visa For UK | Visa For UK Apply Online - Imperial Visas
    Visa For UK - Visa for UK is the most common visa for foreign nationals in order to live and work in the UK. In 2008, all work permit applications were classed under Visa for UK.
    Keywords: -
    Visa for UK, Visa For UK Apply Online
    Contact Us:-
    Location: 2nd Floor Cygnet House,
    12-14 Sydenham Road Croydon
    Surrey CR0 2EE
    Telephone: +44 0203 627 4777
    Email: info@imperialvisas.com
    http://imperialvisas.com/visa-for-uk.html

    ReplyDelete
  26. Ahaa, its nice discussion concerning this paragraph at this place at this web site, I have read all that,
    so at this time me also commenting here.

    Also visit my web page ... Botox Services Manchester

    ReplyDelete
  27. I'm gone to say to my little brother, that he should also pay a quick visit this website on regular basis to obtain updated from newest information.

    Also visit my web-site traffic lawyer in NJ

    ReplyDelete
  28. With havin so much content and articles do you ever
    run into any problems of plagorism or copyright infringement?

    My site has a lot of exclusive content I've either written myself or outsourced but it looks like a lot of it is popping it up all over the web without my agreement. Do you know any methods to help prevent content from being stolen? I'd really appreciate it.


    my webpage - cheap gw2 gold

    ReplyDelete
  29. Hello There. I found your weblog the use of
    msn. This is an extremely smartly written article.
    I will make sure to bookmark it and return
    to read extra of your useful information. Thanks for the post.

    I'll certainly comeback.

    Feel free to visit my page; free safe music download sites

    ReplyDelete
  30. Very good information. Lucky me I came across
    your site by chance (stumbleupon). I have saved as a favorite
    for later!

    My web blog money earning websites

    ReplyDelete
  31. Amazing issues here. I am very happy to look your post.
    Thank you a lot and I am having a look forward to touch you.
    Will you please drop me a mail?

    Stop by my blog post: download software Of youtube video downloader

    ReplyDelete
  32. Howdy! I'm at work surfing around your blog from my new iphone 3gs! Just wanted to say I love reading through your blog and look forward to all your posts! Keep up the great work!

    my web site :: get paid per download

    ReplyDelete
  33. I loved as much as you'll receive carried out right here. The sketch is attractive, your authored subject matter stylish. nonetheless, you command get got an shakiness over that you wish be delivering the following. unwell unquestionably come further formerly again since exactly the same nearly very often inside case you shield this increase.

    Look at my site - Minecraft Beta

    ReplyDelete
  34. If you want a Premium Minecraft Account check out this generator.
    With it you can generate a unique Minecraft Premium
    Account which no one else has! You can Download the Free Premium
    Minecraft Account Generator http://www.get-minecraft-free.
    tk

    Very nice write-up. I absolutely love this site. Keep it up!

    ReplyDelete
  35. Download All Recent Games, Movies, Apps, Mobile Stuff and everything else
    for free at http://www.rls-log.net

    You can download from the following categories

    Full Version Applications for Android, iOS, MAC, Windows

    Full Version Games for Linux, MAC, PC, PS3, Wii, Wii U, XBOX360 and other systems
    Full Movies And Cinema Movies BDRiP, Cam, DVDRiP, DVDRiP Old, DVDSCR, HDRiP, R5, SCR,
    Staff Picks, Telecine, Telesync, Workprint
    Full Music Album MP3s and Music Videos Music, Albums, iTunes, MViD, Singles/EPs
    Full Version Ebooks eBook Magazines

    Download all you want for free at http://www.rls-log.net

    Also visit my website; games for download

    ReplyDelete
  36. Does your blog have a contact page? I'm having a tough time locating it but, I'd like to send you an email.
    I've got some ideas for your blog you might be interested in hearing. Either way, great website and I look forward to seeing it develop over time.

    My website; Get Twitter User Data Back

    ReplyDelete
  37. I absolutely love your blog and find almost all of your post's to be what precisely I'm looking for.
    Does one offer guest writers to write content for yourself?
    I wouldn't mind writing a post or elaborating on many of the subjects you write regarding here. Again, awesome web log!

    Feel free to visit my web page: Linkbucks Bot

    ReplyDelete
  38. Thank You for providing useful information about united kingdom visa and immigration i have also some information to share with you about visa to help you to how to get visa for different country so visit Global Migrate expert consultant of UK Visa

    http://global-migrate.com/uk-visa.html

    ReplyDelete
  39. visa assistance This blog is having very informational content, thanks for sharing.

    ReplyDelete
  40. Its like you read my mind! You appear to know so much about this, like you wrote the book in it or something.
    I think that you can do with a few pics to drive the message home a little
    bit, but other than that, this is excellent blog.
    An excellent read. I'll definitely be back.

    Also visit my web-site; http://xxx-fuck.net/

    ReplyDelete
  41. It's hard to come by educated people on this topic, but you seem like you know what you're talking about!
    Thanks

    Here is my page: how To get money online fast and free

    ReplyDelete
  42. Great weblog here! Additionally your site
    so much up fast! What host are you using? Can I am getting your affiliate hyperlink for
    your host? I want my web site loaded up as quickly as yours
    lol

    Here is my webpage :: Free Playstation Network Cards

    ReplyDelete
  43. This is the perfect blog for anyone who would like to understand this
    topic. You know so much its almost hard to argue with you (not that I
    personally will need to…HaHa). You certainly put a fresh spin on a topic which has been
    written about for decades. Excellent stuff, just excellent!


    Feel free to visit my web-site: minecraft giftcode

    ReplyDelete
  44. Hey I know this is off topic but I was wondering if you knew of any widgets I could add to my blog that automatically tweet my newest twitter updates.
    I've been looking for a plug-in like this for quite some time and was hoping maybe you would have some experience with something like this. Please let me know if you run into anything. I truly enjoy reading your blog and I look forward to your new updates.

    My blog; facebook password cracker

    ReplyDelete
  45. Hello! I just want to give you a huge thumbs up for the excellent information you have got here on this post.

    I'll be coming back to your site for more soon.

    Also visit my webpage: all cheats for dragonvale

    ReplyDelete
  46. We stumbled over here from a different web page and thought I might
    check things out. I like what I see so now i'm following you. Look forward to checking out your web page for a second time.

    Look at my web page sex and porn for free

    ReplyDelete
  47. Hello there! This is my first comment here so I just
    wanted to give a quick shout out and tell you I truly enjoy reading your blog posts.
    Can you suggest any other blogs/websites/forums that deal
    with the same subjects? Thanks a lot!

    my weblog ... watch tv on computer free

    ReplyDelete
  48. Hello there! Do you know if they make any plugins
    to assist with SEO? I'm trying to get my blog to rank for some targeted keywords but I'm not
    seeing very good success. If you know of any please share.
    Thank you!

    Feel free to visit my webpage :: Funny Youtube Videos

    ReplyDelete
  49. Free Windows Password Reset Software - http://www.
    windowspasswordrecovery.tk - For Windows8, Windows 7, Vista, XP, Windows 2000, Windows Server
    2003 and 2008 and NT passwords - Easy Free
    Password Recovery Software - Crack Windows Passwords

    I was wondering if you ever thought of changing the
    structure of your website? Its very well written; I love what
    youve got to say. But maybe you could a little more in the
    way of content so people could connect with it
    better. Youve got an awful lot of text for only having one or 2 pictures.
    Maybe you could space it out better?

    Feel free to surf to my blog - windows 8 password reset

    ReplyDelete
  50. My brother recommended I might like this blog. He was entirely right.
    This post actually made my day. You cann't imagine just how much time I had spent for this info! Thanks!

    Feel free to visit my web page :: adfly hack

    ReplyDelete
  51. Do you have any video of that? I'd care to find out some additional information.

    Feel free to surf to my web-site ... Linkbucks clicker

    ReplyDelete
  52. We are Professional manufacturer of high quality taps. We offer a collection of more than 10,000 Taps in our tapworld .com.au

    ReplyDelete
  53. We are Professional manufacturer of high quality taps. We offer a collection of more than 10,000 Taps in our tapworld .com.au

    ReplyDelete
  54. La plupart des  robinets vente en métal pour salle de bains et cuisine équipée avec un double-clic ou un robinets cascade. Dans le seul robinet est généralement moins cher, parce que c'est un moyen de transformer l'eau chaude, l'eau froide autrement que d'une poignée ou un bouton. robinetterie baignoire avec deux robinets, un de chaque température de l'eau. Ce type est généralement plus cher, mais il peut permettre à l'utilisateur grace à l'robinets LED l'eau chaude et froide mélangée pour obtenir leur température idéale. Les deux tap-tap sont habituellement faites de métal, et de finitions en laiton et chrome et mitigeur douche de nickel.

    ReplyDelete
  55. Wall Mounted Taps - Low Price on Bath Mixer Taps and Kitchen Taps.http://www.findtaps.co.uk/11-wall-mounted-taps

    ReplyDelete
  56. Wall Mounted Taps - Low Price on Bath Mixer Taps and Kitchen Taps.http://www.findtaps.co.uk/11-wall-mounted-taps

    ReplyDelete
  57. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  58. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  59. Choosing from a large selection of high quality taps at http://www.cheaptap.co.uk/. Find new design of antique taps, LED taps, waterfall taps and so on. All of our products are sold from factory directly, igorous manufacturing and testing processes. You must can find one suit for your house here. We also offering everyday update special price products. The more products you buy, the more discounts will be

    ReplyDelete
  60. Hi Jackie,

    Hope you get to read this as your post is a few years ago.

    I read your blog and followed your advice regaling US baby's UK visa application on FLR (O). To my shock, the application was refused.

    I would like some tips or a possible legal decision to back up my appeal. It is cheaper to appeal than return to US to make a new application.

    ReplyDelete
  61. Good http://www.faucetsmarket.com/bathroom-accessory-c-4.html valve switch freely, while the use of touch is not too loose or too tight; Shower faucet, shape to be convenient to open and close, that the use of the Pull down kitchen faucet can easily operate http://www.faucetsmarket.com/

    ReplyDelete
  62. Indian Overseas bank is a bank that provides IOB Net Banking service along with
    IOB Mobile Banking through which one can make their transactions similar to that of
    IOB Internet Banking by iob bank.

    ReplyDelete